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Sidrat Flush
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Posted - 2009.03.28 17:17:00 -
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I'm working on a spreadsheet that will take the price of the component materials (regular mineral prices usually) and calculating the build cost based on the BEST local price it would take to set up your own purchase order.
Granted you could use the lowest local Sell price, but it's usually a lot cheaper to place buy orders IF:
- You can calculate the total minerals for all the items you want/have to build next week/month.
- You don't mind hauling the purchased items to the building location
- You know, the build price for any item at a glance, based on it's input prices you can then scan the market for items that are below this price, taking into account marker order costs of course
The spreadsheet is in its infancy however as I want to include ALL the tech 1 Blueprints and when it comes to manufacturing include the ME level as well.
May be done, tested and polished by the end of next week, or it may not. I do have a great name for it though so it's even more reason to release it.
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Posted - 2009.03.30 00:15:00 -
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I hope we have discovered the language barrier that each side had.
The minerals you mine are FREE (except the cost of the mining lasers which do break).
HOWEVER as has been stated before why build ANY item that you plan to put on the market if the minerals could be sold to someone else for MORE Isk than the built item?
I have to get back to the spreadsheet now.
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Posted - 2009.03.30 14:14:00 -
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I hope this thread can be stickied and locked so that the new industrialists can understand the differences between minimum and maximum profit.
Some would say, real and false profit, but not me.
Question - As minerals have a price (fluctuating of course), has no one realised that buildable items have a current minimum price as well, based on the mineral input?
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:32:00 -
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I don't believe it's possible to change the logic of people who believe minerals they mine are free because of course it's true.
They haven't spent any isk on obtaining the minerals.
They don't earn any isk until they turn the minerals into something and sell it on the market.
Is a battle cruiser built in 0.0 worth less because of the availability of minerals than the same one built in empire anywhere, where you possibly had to purchase stocks of zydrine and or megacyte?
This is the important bit
The spreadsheet that I'm currently working on will demonstrate that the minerals mined have a value. The value will be dependant on the mineral price that you will have to enter in yourself. Just because you obtained them for free they can still be sold to someone else for an isk amount. If the isk amount for the minerals is higher than the price of the item you intend to build with the same amount of minerals then you only build that item out of a desire to please and because you enjoy the building mechanic.
You could sell the minerals to someone else and use the Isk gained from the sale to purchase the same module for less isk than it would have cost you in minerals to make it.
End of important bit, so just read it again until your head hurts or something.
On second thoughs please continue putting up under-priced modules so that the eagle eye traders can maintain a profit without ever undocking.
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Posted - 2009.04.01 01:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sidrat Flush on 01/04/2009 01:16:31
See this excel sheet so it can be demonstrated that the ore you mine and then refine to turn into items DO have a value.
Just enter the mineral prices that you could sell the minerals for, then enter the number of units of Ore you have mined.
Based on perfect refining and zero tax waste you'll get a figure, it will also tell you how many units of minerals you'll get as well.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1038755
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Posted - 2009.05.05 00:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Donner Blue
Wow - you guys are so smart - you can explain economics and theories and hard math and stuff.
Why aren't you smart enough to see you are being trolled????? How many ISK have you lost being indignant and responding to this thread instead of mining free minerals?
I guess you're right, OR people are putting up buy orders and doing level 4 missions instead of mining? Or they could be pretending to work on industrial spreadsheet updates of course
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Sidrat Flush
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Posted - 2009.05.11 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Agett
I just wish it were easier to calculate reprocessing profits. Any programs/xmls out there where you can set the price parse, and easily punch in the reprocess minerals to get a clear profit to compare with? I can probably set this up in a spreadsheet, but if there's already one out there it would be much appreciated.
See the link in the bio, it'll tell you the reprocessed value at the current mineral prices.
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